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Post by Staggy on Jul 7, 2007 19:29:16 GMT 10
As many of you may have heard in the last ten minutes, Monash lost the bid to host Australs to Ateneo.
Congratulations to Ateneo - I am sure they will put on a great tournament.
Bad luck to Victor, Julian, Mel, Georgia, K, Tim S, Roland and everyone else who worked so hard. In the end you can only do your best and we know you gave it everything.
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Post by Staggy on Jul 8, 2007 15:22:36 GMT 10
Octo Final Update:
Monash 1 are through.
Monash 2 lost in a 2-1 split.
Melbourne 1 lost an a unanimous decision.
Melbourne 2 beat Sydney 2.
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Post by Claire on Jul 9, 2007 0:44:59 GMT 10
Monash 1 through to semi final - will be facing vic 1 - who they met in the rounds and beat - hopefully they'll be able to do the same tomorrow!
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Post by Steve on Jul 9, 2007 1:04:01 GMT 10
Thats awesome news!!!! Looks like I'm gonna spend more time procrastinating tomorrow waiting for updates - Go Monash!!!
PS - The facebook group has a post saying that Melb 2 were knocked out in a 3-2 split
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Post by guest on Jul 9, 2007 11:25:21 GMT 10
The Semi Finals are as follows:
Monash 1 vs Vic Wellington 1
Queensland 2 v Queensland 3.
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Post by Staggy on Jul 9, 2007 14:17:20 GMT 10
Monash was knocked out in the semi finals by Vic in a 6-1 decision.
Grand Final will be Vic 1 v UQ 2.
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Post by Tom on Jul 9, 2007 16:52:44 GMT 10
Disappointing of course, but really, thats a brilliant effort by both Monash 1 and 2. Anyone who's debated at Australs knows exactly how hard it is to simply break, but to break first and second after beating some of the best teams at the tournament is extraordinary.
Making the last day of any major tournament is a huge acheivement no matter what level you're at, and I think its pretty exciting that everyone from both Monash 1 (and Monash 2 as well) could very well be back at Australs next year and even the year after that.
Well done guys. You've done us all proud.
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Post by orlando on Jul 9, 2007 17:25:56 GMT 10
Hell yes! Congratulations on all of it.
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Post by Orlando on Jul 9, 2007 23:54:31 GMT 10
Updates? How did everything end up?
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Post by Tom on Jul 10, 2007 7:37:26 GMT 10
UQ 2 beat Vic 1 in a 6-3 split. Hafiedz, Len, Omar, Masako. Nurliana and Bobby in the majority. Tim, Lucia and Jake in the minority
Topic was 'That governments should fund programs that seek to normalise autism'. Don't know all the details, but word is Vic challenged the definition from the neg.
Not sure about any possible Monash speaker prizes, but Bish was 8th and Sayeqa won Martin Sorenson and Jock Faneslow. I'd like everybody to note that I called that weeks ago.
So the new Australs champions are Mitch Grady, Andrew Hodge and Kristen Price.
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Post by Guest on Jul 10, 2007 8:51:11 GMT 10
Surely there wasn't a fair dinkum definitional challenge, in the Grand Final?! Although if it was, it must have been a good one to get Lucia, Tim and Jake on board?
Anyone have any further details?
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Post by Guest X 2 on Jul 10, 2007 8:52:40 GMT 10
Monash speakers:
2nd: Fiona 3rd: Amit 7th: TJ
Not sure about others. But great results from those three.
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Post by kylie on Jul 10, 2007 9:33:53 GMT 10
Congrats to all Monash teams and adjudicators, especially Monash 1 - breaking first, semi-final and all three members with speaker prizes is an outstanding effort!!!
Very interesting grand final panel and split. I look forward to catching up with everyone over a few beers (or M1's drink of choice).
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Post by Mushy on Jul 10, 2007 11:16:54 GMT 10
Top work to M1! Thats a mammoth effort getting all three of you in teh top 10, you should be mighty proud of that effort...
I don't see how there could be confusion with the topic... isnt it just autistic kids should live normal lives (schools etc)??
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Post by Tom on Jul 10, 2007 12:04:21 GMT 10
I can totally understand how you'd stuff up that definition. You could define normalise as long term rather than short term re-integration, meaning streamlined classes and schooling, effectively giving the negative nothing to argue.
You could define 'normalising autism' to mean a public awareness campaign. Again, not really a debate.
My first reaction when I looked at that topic was the normalisation of autistic childrens' response to certain stimuli, which is apparently quite controversial. Autistics respond and communicate differently, so if they are to learn basic responses it has to be conditioned rather than taught, like Pavlov's dog. Some people feel this is dehumanising when the rest of our education system is moving away from rote learning.
Personally, I think the latter is the most interesting debate. i think its probably a better topic the other way around though.
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